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TW: This video contains a rape survivor telling her story. 

I found this when I was answering a comment on a previous post and watched the video that was attached again.  It's a bit old, but I doubt she's changed her mind at all.  As if I needed another reason to hate what Sarah Palin stands for:


Date: 2011-06-05 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hab318princess.livejournal.com
no, it's not only a woman's responsibility to think contraception, I never said that (or didn't think I had)...

but if you value your body as much as you tell me you do, wouldn't you therefore reserve the right not to actually let a guy have unprotected sex with that body if he's not interested in thinking/talking contraception (or even more importantly sexually transmitted diseases) and consider the consequences of his actions - that is equalising it I'd say and the point I tried to get across and maybe didn't very well

If you want to have sex with that person without protection and then have that abortion as contraception - that is your choice as you say (not one I'd agree with but I think we're both aware that we won't agree on everything here such as the fetus issue)

Date: 2011-06-05 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teleens-journal.livejournal.com
Okay, I sort of see where you're coming from now, but again, it still comes down to her body, her choice.

Even if a fetus is a 'life', the woman was there first and her life should always have priority over the one that could be.

I don't have sex without protection, but we're not talking about me - we're talking about thousands of women who are forced to give birth every day, who are indeed forced to RISK THEIR LIVES to bring children into the world that they don't want.

Their reasons for not wanting to carry the child are completely unimportant to this discussion - either a person owns their own body, or they don't. Period.

Date: 2011-06-05 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hab318princess.livejournal.com
as you say, her body, her choice... I just think that in some cases the choice can be made before conception takes place - I know that does not apply to all cases and that there are injustices happening which needs dealing with and I'm becoming more aware of quite a few of them

I meant the 'you' generic, not you as a person





Date: 2011-06-05 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teleens-journal.livejournal.com
I know that does not apply to all cases and that there are injustices happening which needs dealing with and I'm becoming more aware of quite a few of them

Same here, which is why I've become so black and white on this issue. In a perfect world, there would be no unplanned pregnancies, but so long as there are, the woman's rights must be the top priority.

I meant the 'you' generic, not you as a person

My mistake - I apologize.

Date: 2011-06-05 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hab318princess.livejournal.com
I think black and white / one versus another is excluding middle ground - as an example: I'm a born again Christian... now, quite a few people reading that will automatically assume that therefore I must be against gay people or people who do not share the moral belief system that underpins my faith and that I therefore hate them. That is of course fed by the rather vocal 'Christians' that peddle 'God hates' - not my experience but it's the one that gets the press.

I'm more complicated that that and so are my relationships - I love that I can follow your blog and learn about your work place and the issues it raises etc, in the same way that I follow another person (a gay black man) whose issues I don't always understand but which are teaching me.

Yes, I believe the moral teachings of my faith apply to me but for me that is underpinned by 'God is love'. That means that any relationship I develop (even online) is underpinned by love and value of the other person and that that value supersedes the fact that, as the other person does not change my faith and/or moral values, does not live by them. I'd not expect them to... they don't share the values.

I hope that makes sense.

and don't worry, English is a complicated (in German I could differentiate)

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